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Showing posts with label survey. Show all posts
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Sunday, March 25, 2018

The youth have spoken...dear God help us all

What hell will Pope Francis unleash on us now that he's heard from our  the youth? ("our youth" would be Catholic, but this Vatican initiated conference didn't ask only its Catholic youth...oh no! The Church wants protest, pagan and atheist youth to tell the Church how it should proceed.) By all means, let the non-Catholics dictate what the Church should do. 😕  

What did the youth complain about say they needed from Christ's Holy Catholic Church? 

*less moralism (those pesky Ten Commandments just won't go away! We want our sex, birth control and gay marriage supported by the Church, etc.) 

*women's equality (we know what this means, we want women priests!) 

*more accompaniment (when we hear this, its 99% of the time used to "accompany" someone IN their sin, not out of it-that would hurt their feelings-see below) 

*more welcoming & merciful Church (don't hurt anyone's feelings by telling them their sins will lead them to eternal damnation)


Quote: VATICAN CITY (AP) — Young Catholics told the Vatican on Saturday they want a more transparent and authentic church, where women play a greater leadership role and where obeying "unreachable" moral standards isn't the price of admission.
In a fascinating final document from a week long Vatican-initiated conference, 300 young people from around the world joined by 15,000 young people online gave the older men who run the 1.2-billion strong church a piece of their collective mind.
They urged Pope Francis and the bishops who will gather at the Vatican in the fall to back their recommendations that church leaders must address the unequal roles of women in the church and how technology is used and abused. They warned that "excessive moralism" is driving faithful away and that out-of-touch church bureaucrats need to accompany their flock with humility and transparency.
"We, the young church, ask that our leaders speak in practical terms about subjects such as homosexuality and gender issues, about which young people are already freely discussing," they said.
Among the participants, however, there was no consensus on hot-button issues such as church teaching on contraception, homosexuality, abortion or cohabitation. 
The document said some young people want the church to change its teaching...[clipped] 
This isn't news to anyone. We see it among the adults in and outside the Church so no one should be surprised our youth are spouting the same nonsense. 

Yet all hope is not lost! There are some young people (thanks be to God!) who accept all the Church teaches and simply want the Church to proclaim Her teachings "more forcefully" and to "better explain" the teachings!
... or better explain it; others accept the teachings and want the church to proclaim them more forcefully.
But overall, the young people concluded, the church often comes off as too severe and its "excessive moralism" often sends the faithful looking elsewhere for peace and spiritual fulfillment.[clipped]
  
For the life of me, I can't believe anyone today thinks the Church is "too severe" in this day and age. Would love to send these people back a few centuries - (or even decades for that matter!) for a comparison of the Church then to now! 😇



"The young people also made it clear that they love their technology and the church must get hip to that or lose relevance." [clipped]
Telling the post Vatican II Church it "must get hip" is mind blowing. 


We've got clown Masses, liturgical dancers bouncing around, female altar servers, parades of "Eucharistic ministers"(let's face it, they really aren't "extraordinary" at this point), rock-n-roll Masses, gay pride Masses and assorted pagan's mixing it up at our Masses since Vatican II. 

What these youth want is Protestantism, not Catholicism. 

God help our youth, I weep for them. 


In Christ, 


Julie @ Connecticut Catholic Corner 


Sources: 

https://www.middletownpress.com/news/world/article/Youth-give-pope-piece-of-their-mind-call-for-12778590.php

https://churchpop.com/2015/09/19/27-fascinating-photos-of-pre-vatican-ii-catholicism/



Sunday, February 2, 2014

The Catholic Survey Results are in...

Last October, the National Catholic Reporter erroneously reported that the Vatican was sending out a survey asking "grass-roots" Catholics for their opinions on Church teachings.  The world erupted upon hearing that report because they thought the Pope would change Church doctrine on things like gay marriage, women priests, divorce and remarriage etc.  The National Catholic Reporter was wrong and misled Catholics around the world.

Fr. Lombardi of the Vatican Press Office quickly stepped up and clarified that the questionnaire was directed NOT at the Catholic laity for their opinions, but rather to Bishops.  And that these questions were NOT about ANY doctrines of the faith.

Fr. Lombardi (CNA quote): “the questions “are not regarding the doctrinal position of the Church,” explaining that the document has solely an advisory character, forming part of the habitual “praxis” of the synod of bishops.  The questions were given to the bishops of all the world's dioceses on how to address pastoral questions and how to give assistance to persons in irregular family situations, among other things.”

But the damage was done.  The National Catholic Reporter's false statements spread and now confused Catholics are even more confused because they think their opinions can change Catholic doctrine.

Soon following the NCR’s damage, the Association of Catholics Priests (Ireland) decided the Vatican survey was too difficult and they made up their own survey, put it online and asked Catholic priests, religious and laity to share their personal opinions.

The results of THAT survey are in and it’s not pretty.

According to the Association of Catholic Priests Family Life Synod survey…(remember this is NOT from the Vatican and has no effect on anything at the Vatican)

[assorted questions from the survey in no particular order]

Question: What influence of “natural law” as defined by the Magisterium have in areas of society?

Answers: In politics, 44.67% said NO INFLUENCE in politics at all.
In your parish, 22.87% said NO INFLUENCE in their own parish at all.
In society at large, 35.07% said NO INFLUENCE at all in society at large.

It gets worse…

Question: Is cohabitation (couples living together before getting married) a pastoral reality in your particular church?

Answer: 98% said people living together outside of marriage was a ‘reality’ in their particular parish church. **13% of these cohabiting households have at least one child under the age of 15 living in this situation.

One wonders if any Catholics in Ireland are married at all anymore!

Now the topic of “marriage equality” is asked… I find this strange right off the bat because according to the Catholic Faith there is only ONE type of marriage that can ever be accepted (1 man/1 woman).  To use the term “marriage equality” seems misleading coming from Catholic priests.  Especially since THIS question is NOT asked in the official Vatican questionnaire.  It’s useless but sadly telling just the same.

Question: How important is ‘marriage equality’ to you?

47% of Catholics said ‘marriage equality’ was EXTREMELY or VERY IMPORTANT to them.
23% of Catholics said ‘marriage equality’ was ‘somewhat important’ to them.
18% of Catholics said it was “not at all important” to them, and 11% said they either ‘did not know’ or ‘did not wish to answer’

Question: Is the moral teaching of Humanae Vitae accepted?

69% - NOT accepted
31% - accepted IN PART
LESS than 5% - accepted it completely

Question: How important is the availability of contraception to you and your community?

76% of Catholics said it was EXTREMELY to SOMEWHAT IMPORTANT to them and their community to have contraception available to them.

On the subject of USING birth control and going to Confession and receiving the Eucharist people clearly showed they either do not know or understand their faith, OR they simply do not care and do what they want anyway.

67.21% of Catholics said “I follow my conscience about family planning. I do not believe it to be morally wrong for the Sacrament of Reconciliation. I participate fully in the Eucharist.”
9.02% of Catholics said “I fully support the Church’s teaching on family planning and only use methods approved by the Church.”



To read the full ACP survey click on the link below.

In Christ,

Julie @ Connecticut Catholic Corner

Sources:

Link:  http://ncronline.org/news/vatican/vatican-asks-parish-level-input-synod-document

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